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Title: Custom shields for Medieval theme
Post by: deadeye dick on June 08, 2009, 01:36:25 PM
I've been designing some custom shield for my Medieval knights. I will make some English & Flemish knights and some crusaders.

Which shields do you like most?
Title: Re: Custome shields for Medieval theme
Post by: henry_martini on June 08, 2009, 03:08:33 PM
I favour the first 2 patterns.

Thanks for posting
H_M
Title: Re: Custome shields for Medieval theme
Post by: deadeye dick on June 08, 2009, 05:24:09 PM
Had a very creative afternoon. Designed about 20 :-)
Title: Re: Custome shields for Medieval theme
Post by: Richard on June 08, 2009, 05:34:21 PM


I love them all, DD !!!

Thanks for posting them. They're beautiful ... (http://www.gardenwargamer.com/images/worshippy.gif)

All the best,
Richard
Title: Re: Custome shields for Medieval theme
Post by: deadeye dick on June 08, 2009, 07:27:23 PM


I love them all, DD !!!

Thanks for posting them. They're beautiful ... (http://www.gardenwargamer.com/images/worshippy.gif)

All the best,
Richard


Thx for your nice feedback. I'm fiddling around with decals, but it requires a lot of practising
Title: Re: Custome shields for Medieval theme
Post by: Justindo on June 08, 2009, 09:30:20 PM
I really like them all, DD, but I'm not sure I like the grey circles around the edges of some of them.
Title: Re: Custome shields for Medieval theme
Post by: Foulques on June 11, 2009, 10:02:34 AM
Well we have bought some of them in a german merchant stand at Vinay meeting. Did you made too crusaders shields with cyprian armories?

Just a few critics, the two second numbers of third and four series with cross and lion aren't very close to blason rule, the two last are quite strange for the same rule especially the one with carinthian arms in a round circle. The other with lions is beautiful and convincing for armories in book but not in a simple shield.

Is it possible too made the two shields with cosmic cross in yellow for kingdom of Jerusalem? In red it's more colour of franciscan order.

Congratulations again!
Title: Re: Custome shields for Medieval theme
Post by: deadeye dick on June 11, 2009, 11:15:31 AM
Thx for your feedback Foulques !!! To be honest, when designing the shields I cared less about historical correctness. I just started designing and saw where my creativity took me  ;D

Can you tell me why these shields aren't very close to blason rule, so that I can learn  ??? Actually I modeled one like a picture of a shield I found on the internet. Can you show a picture of a yellow cosmic cross for kingdom of Jerusalem? Is this like the attached cross?

By accident do you have a link of all kind off crosses and their meaning?

Thx mate  :)
Title: Re: Custome shields for Medieval theme
Post by: Foulques on June 11, 2009, 11:52:55 AM
I haven't many documentation here and I don't know english or german books, so one shield in two parts with a top and lower are quite strange and rare.

For Jerusalem arms you can put your two first shields in yellow and it's good.

So I don't have many time now but we could see that after, I have some suggestions.

All the best

Jean-Philippe
Title: Re: Custome shields for Medieval theme
Post by: Foulques on June 12, 2009, 01:24:22 PM
just a nice web site in french on heraldry:

http://www.heraldique-europeenne.org/Accueil.htm
Title: Re: Custome shields for Medieval theme
Post by: Richard on June 12, 2009, 02:05:02 PM



just a nice web site in french on heraldry:

http://www.heraldique-europeenne.org/Accueil.htm



Thanks for the link, Jean-Philippe!

I also enjoyed exploring the "web ring" ...  :)

One other site of interest is:
http://www.laurentgranier.com/

I have attached an illustration from this site which shows "proper" heraldic devices. However, I think that I personally like DD's "incorrect" heraldry better ...  ;D

All the best,
Richard

see attachment
Title: Re: Custome shields for Medieval theme
Post by: deadeye dick on June 12, 2009, 09:04:10 PM
@ Foulques: Thx for the link. Just had a look at it and there's really some interisting stuff I can use !!! Just found out that I also have a Dutch book related to heraldry in my private library  ;D.

About the yellow background for the Jerusalem arms: now the background is white, but when printed on transparent decals and put on a yellow background it will have the Jerusalem effect, right? I attached some samples. Is this more likely  ???

@ Richard: normaly 'nothing beats the real thing', so I'm flatered you like my 'incorrect' heraldry better  8)

Just visited all your suggested links: guys you made my day  :-* Such a nice collection of high-quality arms.

Title: Re: Custome shields for Medieval theme
Post by: deadeye dick on June 14, 2009, 07:57:29 PM
About the yellow background for the Jerusalem arms: now the background is white, but when printed on transparent decals and put on a yellow background it will have the Jerusalem effect, right? I attached some samples. Is this more likely  ???

OK, I think I understand what you meant. Found the Jerusalem coat of arms  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Jerusalem) at wikipedia. Now, what I have read in my book of heraldry  (http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Book-Heraldry-Stephen-Slater/dp/0754810623) is that some people think that initially the cross was red, but that the red paint dissapeared in time, so that the gold became visible. This would explain a lot, because it's against heraldic rules to put color on color and metal on metal. The Jerusalem coat of arms like you mention is a gold cross on a silver background.
Title: Re: Custome shields for Medieval theme
Post by: deadeye dick on June 14, 2009, 08:05:33 PM
I haven't many documentation here and I don't know english or german books, so one shield in two parts with a top and lower are quite strange and rare.

There's some nice info on wikipedia 'en français' (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A9raldique)'  ;)

Unfortunately the French version doesn't show a picture of the shield divisions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_the_field). I attached the English version  8)

Title: Re: Custome shields for Medieval theme
Post by: Foulques on June 14, 2009, 08:19:07 PM
good job! I don't know that jerusalem cross were primly red, today is the franciscan cross who keep holy places for catholics in Israel.
Title: Re: Custome shields for Medieval theme
Post by: deadeye dick on July 10, 2009, 05:16:02 PM
Here's already an example of what I've been doing with the shields and the decals  ;D Once all attributes and armies are ready I will create a separate thread.
Title: Re: Custom shields for Medieval theme
Post by: Grant on July 10, 2009, 07:28:28 PM
I like them all. To hard to choose a favorite.