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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2005, 11:53:58 PM »
As I have said that helmet was used in all Europe. The authentic spanish helmet during XVI century was this:

(I have some of them for my Playmobil  :wink: too, it's name was MORION)
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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2005, 01:51:17 AM »
Thanks. Yoyei!

Many of us in the United States are more familiar with the "comb" morion of the conquistadores as illustrated below ...


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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2005, 02:35:17 AM »
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....was used in all Europe. The authentic spanish helmet during XVI century was this:
..it's name was MORION)


gentlemen,
i didnt know there was another version at the same time..
so who wore this 'authentic' version while the conquistadores in america(those who fought montezuma or the Aztecs) & europe wore the more popularly known 'comb' version?
just curious :D

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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2005, 04:05:52 PM »
Both helmets are authentic. But the comb model, also known as conquistadores helmet, was used in all Europe. The second morion was used ONLY by spanish armies.
It was preferred by spanish in XVI century because it was ligther and more comfortable. The protection was similar between those types.
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« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2005, 07:55:30 AM »
Quote from: Yoyei
Both helmets are authentic. But the comb model, also known as conquistadores helmet, was used in all Europe. The second morion was used ONLY by spanish armies.
It was preferred by spanish in XVI century because it was ligther and more comfortable. The protection was similar between those types.


Sorry, but I belive that some of the last morion were used in british army during the begining of the XVIIème century. Most européans piqueman use it in XVIIth century for the resons you explain. Probably late than spanish because they want to make the same thing than spanish, the first army in these times. In France I belive we call it "cabasset". Only infanterie man use them.

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« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2005, 08:40:10 AM »
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Sorry, but I belive that some of the last morion were used in british army during the begining of the XVIIème century...
Stéphane


sorry if my mind is a bit slow gentlemen!
but i saw 3 helmets...2 with combs and 1 without(with very extensive patterns)...so which is the second helmet?

also, which helmet did the spanish used in south america?
thanks!

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« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2005, 12:56:23 PM »
Sorry Cheng. My speach is about the two yoyei's "morion" helmet.
In french, morion is used only for helemet with "comb" not for the second one presented by yoyei ;)

I hope I'm more clear now.

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« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2005, 11:31:08 AM »
Hello,

The selvmade-Helmets are great!  :D Gassy_de introducet this Creation in Playmo-Portal months ago. Also the Shields are great.
Is it possible to get some Roman Helmets? My centurios and decurios would be very happy  :wink:

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« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2005, 06:07:31 PM »
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Sorry, but I belive that some of the last morion were used in british army during the begining of the XVIIème century. Most européans piqueman use it in XVIIth century for the resons you explain. Probably late than spanish because they want to make the same thing than spanish, the first army in these times. In France I belive we call it "cabasset". Only infanterie man use them.

Stéphane


You are right Stéphane, I was talking for XVI century. The spanish Tercios extend those morions in Europe
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« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2005, 11:30:18 AM »
Is there a way to get some ninja swords

I'm looking for some (painted or non painted )

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« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2005, 04:47:40 AM »
IS there a way for me to get some spaniards helmets?
They´re just wonderfull!
Thanx a lot

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« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2005, 04:48:47 AM »
IS there a way for me to get some spaniards helmets?
They´re just wonderfull!
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« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2005, 01:02:19 PM »
About the helmets, I went to a lecture on armour at the National Army Museum in London and the lecturer said the "comb" style was the earlier version but was replaced by the pointed version without a comb.  He said it was simply a matter of fashion - it didn't provide better protecton or anything like that.

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« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2005, 01:04:13 PM »
I tried making a comb type morion for some model soldiers once (not Palymobil).  It was very difficult.  Those curves are harder to do and to get to "look right" than you would at first imagine.  I did it in the end but about 12 early attempts ended up in the bin!