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Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: de Warrens on June 12, 2005, 02:57:48 PM
This is how I customise with Milliput etc.

I had lots of fun making this one. :D  




Translation: It nearly drove me nuts.

I tried EsDoc`s method of keeping the figure`s hands free to swivel using paper to separate the `wrist´from the Milliput. It worked very well.  Thanks EsDoc :D

David
Title: CUSTOMIZING WITH MILLIPUT ...
Post by: Richard on June 12, 2005, 03:36:45 PM
Napoleon (http://www.ring.mithec.com/BOOKS/napoleon5.jpg) at a young age? ...

Bravo !!! ... (http://www.gardenwargamer.com/images/worshippy.gif)

QUESTION:
When you have finished this figure, will it be durable? In other words could you use this figure in a wargame? A "Little Wars" (https://gardenwargaming.com/wargame/intro.html) wargame? ... :)

Could this figure stand up to a direct hit from a Playmobil Big Bertha mortar?

(http://www.gardenwargaming.com/pirates/images/7345smortar.jpg) ... ;)

All the best,
Richard
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: de Warrens on June 12, 2005, 03:59:43 PM
Hi Richard!

  Maybe he could withstand a direct hit from `Big Bertha´, maybe he couldn`t.  :D  As I wouldn´t like to risk it, I made a wargaming version. :wink:  

 I did think of making this a  young Napoleon figure, but one look at all that gold embroidery made me  blanche!  

 He will be a humble Hesse-Darmstadt infantry officer :lol:  

David
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: Richard on June 12, 2005, 04:09:52 PM
Quote from: de Warrens
He will be a humble Hesse-Darmstadt infantry officer :lol:  

David


Maybe he'll get promoted (Napoleon was only a corporal) ...  :lol:

All the best,
Richard
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: OLCESE on June 12, 2005, 04:52:37 PM
Quote from: Richard

Maybe he'll get promoted (Napoleon was only a corporal) ...  :lol:

All the best,
Richard


yes Napoleon was a corporal, and even when it was named Général, after the riots of Paris, his troop (the grognards, or the old guard) has conserved the name of "small corporal" Very respected his men, Napoleon made much for France, If I recognize that it was more one man of war which a fine policy, and which with respect to England and other countries, its ambition perhaps were not always justified. This says very pretty custom
Title: NAPOLEON ...
Post by: Richard on June 12, 2005, 09:35:06 PM
Merci, Paul ...

The little "Corporal" ... ;)

(http://www.gardenwargaming.com/howto/images/01sm.JPG) (http://www.gardenwargaming.com/howto/Graphic01.html)

All the best,
Richard
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: de Warrens on June 12, 2005, 10:39:01 PM
Hallo, Richard!

 I like the little "Corporal", but he looks kinda blue.. :D

I´m delighted to see you `getting your hands dirty´ ... Let´s see some more!  :wink:

All the best,
David
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: GaiusIulius on June 13, 2005, 12:20:00 AM
nice work de Warrens.  :D
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: Richard on June 13, 2005, 12:31:42 AM
Quote from: de Warrens
Hallo, Richard!

I´m delighted to see you `getting your hands dirty´ ... Let´s see some more!  :wink:

All the best,
David


That was from a long, long time ago, David ... :)

All the best,
Richard
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: Stéphane on June 14, 2005, 11:05:31 AM
I'ts very realistic one.

Stéphane

PS: sorry but I don't konw some word in english to say more :(
Title: LANGUAGE ... LENGUA ... LANGUE ...
Post by: Richard on June 14, 2005, 04:07:03 PM
Quote from: Stéphane
PS: sorry but I don't konw some word in english to say more :(


If you do not know ... use Babel Fish (http://www.babelfish.altavista.com/tr) translator!

Si vous ne connaissez pas... le traducteur de Babel Fish (http://www.babelfish.altavista.com/tr) d'utilisation !
¡Si usted no sabe... el traductor de Babel Fish (http://www.babelfish.altavista.com/tr) del uso!

All the best,
Richard
Title: Re: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: Richard on June 20, 2005, 05:25:53 PM
Quote from: de Warrens
Translation: It nearly drove me nuts.


Is your "first" post a new post? How did you do it? Did you edit a previous post? ...  :roll:

I can't imagine that I would have thought that you were making a young Napoleon, had I seen your first foto of a Hesse-Darmstadt infantry officer!

How could I have missed seeing your first foto? :?

And, was this thread not originally labeled, "Work in Progress" ...  :?:

Am I the one who is going nuts?  ... :wink:

Regardless ... your "finiished" figure is magnificent!!! ... (http:///www.gardenwargamer.com/images/worshippy.gif)

All the best,
Richard
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: de Warrens on June 20, 2005, 08:38:42 PM
Hi, Richard,

             It was easy.  :wink: Ignorance is bliss, perhaps.

I just edited my first post. I tried to change all the photos but only the first one worked.  Then I went back, had a closer look, and saw that I could delete the old photos and substitute new ones.
           
            You´re right, there`s not enough gold for young Napoleon. :lol:

David
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: cheng on June 21, 2005, 06:18:07 AM
good to 'see' you again, David!
your customs has a kind of character which i can immediately recognise...i do envy your skill...i'll stick to just spraying and minor touch-ups  :?  until i find the time when i retire  :D

questions(as usual :) )
1)insect pins;
how short do you cut them?(i assume you press them in rather than jusr superglue them on?!) i dont suppose its necessary to micro drill their holes first? i wont be doing either one(glue nor drill...against my own rules :) )

2)paint;
his red etc always look kind of matt...do you matt coat your finished painting or its your choice of paint...i'm starting to wonder if i should stop using gloss sprays(black shoes are ok tho')

and as usual...your custom is fantastic!!! not meant for mass-prducers like me :)
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: de Warrens on June 21, 2005, 10:00:18 AM
Help it`s the inquisitor! :lol:  Hallo Cheng, nice to `see`you too. :D

 I shorten the pins to between one and two cms using the pliers below. Then I superglue them into the holes which I bore in the klicky! That made you squirm, didn`t it Cheng! :lol:  The pins never fall out.. :wink:

 With this figure, and most of my figures, I use matt Humbrol paint.  It wasn´t necessary to paint the boots on the figure at the top of the thread. Usually  I use satin gloss for boots and shoes. I hope that helps Cheng. Will this all be filed away and brought out on your retirement? :lol:

David
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: OLCESE on June 21, 2005, 11:17:51 AM
Superb David, :P

 I have a question but I do not know where to put it. :?:


 I being French to know your vision of the history of Napoleon, of that it way was she has you wanted taught? What it approach do you have of the character?

I know that the opinions are divided between the fact that is a tyrant or a great man of the history.

But us, all, collector of Playmobil, especially here, let us have to seek to reproduce its image and its uniforms.

 Then Please, That think about it?

 Thank you for your answers.

Cordially

With the fact here my vision of this one in uniform of colonel of the dragons. There are still things improved, but I do not have all the parts yet
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: de Warrens on June 23, 2005, 10:40:14 AM
Thankyou Paul.

I`m not in a position to answer your question concerning Napoleon.

At school we were simply taught that the Napoleonic wars were fought against the French. Therefore for the English he must have been a tyrant. I don`t know the German version, but he did change continental Europe quite dramatically. I like to think of him as a force for change.

I like your dragoon uniform. Is it the uniform of a dragoon of the Imperial Guard? I think a line of these would look quite impressive.


As for the uniforms, for my money, the French had by far the best.:D

All the best,

David
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: OLCESE on June 23, 2005, 11:24:51 AM
Hello David

 Here the bond for comparison of the uniforms,

Click HERE (http://napoleonuniforme.free.fr/france/Garde/Garde%20a%20cheval/DragonsGarde.jpg)

 Namely that the uniform of Colonel of the dragons of Napoleon did not contain all the ornaments of the original, it had some make a comfortable and daily uniform. Now if you refer to this uniform so below, here the bond, it is a uniform of officer of the line.

Click HERE (http://napoleonuniforme.free.fr/france/Ligne/A%20cheval/dragons_ligne/Dragons02(Elite).jpg)
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: Richard on June 23, 2005, 04:40:37 PM
Quote from: de Warrens
As for the uniforms, for my money, the French had by far the best.:D


The British uniforms (http://napoleonuniforme.free.fr/nouveau_fichier14.html) were also rather impressive ... ;)

The Prussian uniforms (http://napoleonuniforme.free.fr/nouveau_fichier17.html) were also rather nice  ... ;)

Even the Dutch uniforms (http://napoleonuniforme.free.fr/nouveau_fichier20.html) were handsomely done  ... ;)

Actually, I think that we might all agree that this was a period of beautiful uniforms ... :)

BTW, David ... I wonder if everyone is going back to see the magnificent foto updates (http://www.playclicks.com/gardenwargaming/foro/viewtopic.php?t=99&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0) of your first posts ... :?:

And, thank you, OLCESE ... for the this great link (http://napoleonuniforme.free.fr/) ... :)

All the best,
Richard
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: de Warrens on June 24, 2005, 04:40:58 PM
Hello Paul and Richard,
              Thankyou for the links and information. :D

  I wish I`d known of this wonderful site before. These images are exactly what a customiser needs!

              I wish they would stop calling the Nassauer Dutch, they were Germans living in an area of Germany belonging to the Duke of Nassau, who was also King of the Netherlands.

David
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: OLCESE on June 24, 2005, 04:56:15 PM
Hi David. Super, that you like the bond, and thank you for small the history, one hopes to be able to see soon other uniforms on the site. A turning in the history of Europe this battle (Waterloo). And for this days the approach of the strategy soldiers have not had any more was the same ones, finished the great battles, in arranged order, from now on the mobility of the troops is of setting.
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: de Warrens on July 01, 2005, 05:01:16 PM
Hello Paul!

           I`ve just noticed the modified swordbelt in the` Dragon_profil´ photo. A very interesting solution. I always have problems with where to put the bayonets.  

David.
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: de Warrens on July 01, 2005, 05:11:30 PM
Here are a couple of soldiers for the officer to shout at :wink:

For the historians:

The  Leib Brigade Hessen-Darmstadt was part of the army of the Confederation of the Rhein. It took part in the campaigns in Prussia and Poland in 1807; in Germany and Austria, 1809; in Russia 1812; in Saxony 1813; and in France in 1814.

David
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: GaiusIulius on July 01, 2005, 05:25:19 PM
nice  :shock:
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: cheng on July 02, 2005, 03:04:55 AM
Quote from: de Warrens
....Leib Brigade Hessen-Darmstadt was part of the army of the Confederation of the Rhein....David


Hello David!
and again you are giving more must-dos to put away in my open-when-retired closet :D
...just adding details like yours to my shakos will force me to live till 100...with steady hands and retaining good vision :)
...as always..thanks for the inspiration!!

and make sure youre around to explain how each detail is made :D :D

btw, your bicorns are scratch-built around a metal/plastic tube i suppose? the black doesnt look matt and the surface looks good...what material do you use for the flaps of your bicornes?

lastly, sorry, but are these soldiers french? who were they fighting?
cheers!
...the inquisitive but no inquisitor :)
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: OLCESE on July 02, 2005, 12:57:19 PM
Quote from: de Warrens
Hello Paul!

           I`ve just noticed the modified swordbelt in the` Dragon_profil´ photo. A very interesting solution. I always have problems with where to put the bayonets.  

David.


Hello David,

Thank you I had not translated that like that, happy to have brought a solution to you which can help you? it is what there is of simpler which came to me to mind.
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: de Warrens on July 03, 2005, 11:15:43 AM
Hello Cheng,

    These bicornes are old Playmobil pirate hats, as you can see from this picture. :D

  http://www.collectobil.com/images/items/3480.jpg  


  There was no one state of Germany until 1871
  What is now Germany was a group of medium to tiny kingdoms, duchies counties etc.
The Confederation of the Rhein was a group of states, in the south and west of Germany, which allied themselves to Napoleon and provided troops for his campaigns. After 1812 they started to change sides and ally themselves with Prussia. Hessen-Darmstadt was a typical example.  

Have you ever thought of taking early retirement Cheng ?:lol:  :lol:

David
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: cheng on July 04, 2005, 03:22:54 AM
Quote from: de Warrens
Hello Cheng,
    These bicornes are old Playmobil pirate hats...

Have you ever thought of taking early retirement Cheng ?:lol:  :lol:
David


i'll do better than that...retire early and move into your neighbourhood!!!
:D :D

naa....cant do that till the kids grow up...cant afford it...

thanks for the bit of history..its easier than reading a whole lot of confusing details!

i've restricted myself to just french & brit shakos...otherwise i'll have no other life and my kids would have grown & flown by the time i look up from my playmo worktable and pity my wife...if she doesnt run off :D

more David, more! cheers!
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: cheng on July 04, 2005, 03:26:37 AM
Oops!
David, i meant to also ask you if these bicornes are still available from US DS...they look better than the newer pirates' ones!

thanks again!
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: de Warrens on July 04, 2005, 08:27:14 PM
I don`t really know if the bicornes are still available at the US Direct Servive, as I live in Germany, but I very much doubt it.

David
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: Stéphane on July 07, 2005, 04:36:37 PM
Great hessian!
You could use them for the american independance war too isn't it?

Stéphane
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: de Warrens on July 07, 2005, 06:58:06 PM
Hello Stéphane,

               There were two, or more, Hessens! It was  Hesse- Cassel which had troops in North America. I`ve made a couple of customs of these.

            On the left is a Jaeger, or rifleman and on the right a grenadier from Regiment von Ditfurth.  

 David
Title: BEAUTIFUL!!!
Post by: Richard on July 08, 2005, 03:51:14 AM
Quote from: de Warrens
... Hesse- Cassel ... had troops in North America. ... a Jaeger ... and ... a grenadier from Regiment von Ditfurth.


Nicely done, David! They look fabulous!

Have you made any troops from the North American French and Indian War (Seven Years War in Europe) ???

Some British Grenadiers (who, at that time, also wore a mitered cap somewhat similar to the Hessians) would look great fighting the French and their Indian allies ...

Unfortunately, Playmobil has not made any natives that really look like the woodlands Indians such as the Iroquois, Huron, or Mohawk ...

Thanks for sharing your splendid customs with us, David.

All the best,
Richard
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: de Warrens on July 10, 2005, 09:54:00 PM
Thanks Richard,

                      No, I haven`t made any figures from the  French and Indian War, yet. ;-) The French uniforms look interesting, they`re more voluminous, (baggier) than other uniforms.

               I have made some British grenadiers from this period, but not regiments that fought in N. America. You`ll find them here:

   http://justforklicks.com/j4k/gallery/warrensde/grens/grens01.html  

  All the best,

 David
Title: you guys have lost me completely, haha!
Post by: cheng on July 11, 2005, 04:47:07 AM
Quote from: Richard
[....Indian War (Seven Years War in Europe) ???
....fighting the French and their Indian allies ...

Unfortunately, Playmobil has not made any natives that really look like the woodlands Indians such as the Iroquois, Huron, or Mohawk ...

Thanks for sharing your splendid customs with us, David.
Richard


i'll say it again David....your British Grenadiers 1751-1768 and all...fantastic!!

you guys lost me completely...of course i can surf the net and try to sort it out but in a nut shell....
Indian War refers to the post ACW between calvary and indians, right?
..whereas Seven Years War in Europe had no Native American (Indians), right?

and staying ignorant about the diffrences re:Huron, Mohawk etc, makes it ok for me to put all my native americans in a same diorama :D

David,
IF ..just IF, you ever get bored but need a rest from customising...just rearrange any of your 'old' customs and show us...i just love to see them from all angles with your good lighting, close-ups and beautifull back drops...these combinations are becoming your trademark :D
Title: Re: you guys have lost me completely, haha!
Post by: de Warrens on July 15, 2005, 05:08:37 PM
Quote from: cheng

David,
IF ..just IF, you ever get bored but need a rest from customising...just rearrange any of your 'old' customs and show us...i just love to see them from all angles with your good lighting, close-ups and beautifull back drops...these combinations are becoming your trademark :D


 Hi Cheng,
 I hope you like the photos you`ve seen on Garden Wargaming and Justfor clicks. More will be coming, I promise you, but it takes more time than you think. Then it all has to be edited and uploaded onto the internet.
   Just between you and me, there`s something coming soon.. ;-)

David

PS
    The French & Indian War is, basically, the  name for the North American theatre of the Seven Year War.  
    I don`t know much about the `Indian Wars`, the Brits had gone by then. :D
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: Stéphane on July 16, 2005, 03:46:25 PM
Just a precision about Anglo saxon war apellations:

Indian wars (second half from the XIXth century) : Last fights between Union cavalry and indian in the north's plain of america.

French & Indian wars : all fights between English north america colonies and french colonies from canada (quebec, Montreal and the trois rivière) between 1650 to 1759 (officialy 1763). Without "s" (single) the speek about the part of the seven years war action in the north america.
In France we call them "guerre d'Amérique" but most french doesn't call them :mrgreen:

STéphane
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: EsDoc on July 20, 2005, 12:15:54 PM
Great David!!!!

I noticed your lovely conversions in playmo-board, but hadn't the desired time to reply any earlier.
The sash is magnificent, but hey what am I saying... the entire figure is!

The mitre cap of the hessian is great as well. My fingers are getting all itchy to try something like it myself.

The method for the buttons is great isn't it?

A paperstrip under the cuffs helps a lot. I didn't think it was such an inventive idea, but it happens to be very effective as one can see :)

If I may kick in on the bicorne-question: The old fashioned bicornes are no longer available. But the good news is this part is far from being rare. It can be found in large amounts at any convention. In Wolfsburg I wasn't exactly after this part but I remember seeing many dozens of them while browsing for my needed parts :)

EsDoc
Title: Work in Progress is now finished.
Post by: cheng on July 21, 2005, 03:46:27 AM
Quote from: Stéphane

Indian wars (second half from the XIXth century) : Last fights between Union cavalry and indian in the north's plain of america.

French & Indian wars : all fights between English north america colonies and french colonies from canada....between 1650 to 1759 (officialy 1763)
STéphane


thanks STéphane!
ummm...i thought the indians were just drawn into the French & Indian wars like auxillaries/mercernaries/scouts on both sides...were they in so big numbers that they had to call it the Indian war(s)? didnt the british 'used'(sorry, cant thnk of a more polite term) some indians too?