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English forums => General => Topic started by: de Warrens on July 12, 2005, 05:50:33 PM
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As the title suggests, I`m searching for illustrations of French drummers´ uniforms for the Seven Year War/ French & Indian War.
NEC PLURIBUS IMPAR is a very useful website:
http://vial.jean.free.fr/new_npi/
but has no illustrations of drummers. For many of the regiments it just says,´ Tambours à la livrée du Roi ..` So, what did they look like??
Many thanks to anyone who could help. :)
David
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Hello, David ...
As you know, ALL of my stuff is currently in transit from Texas to the Canadian northwest. When it arrives, I may have the answers to your uniform request for a French drummer's uniform. In the meantime, maybe some of our French members will be able to assist you.
All the best,
Richard
(http://www.military-historians.org/company/plates/images/261.gif)
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Well: some french regiment weared the "livrée du roi" but not all.
The "livrée du roi" was a blue/grey (like french guard uniforme) color cloth but with lot of "chained" ribons (withe and crimson color)
You could see the result on my own miniatures page
(http://theilsb.club.fr/VAEVICTIS/FIGURINES/FIGU-GALERIE-principale.htm)
I will trying to find the details.
Stéphane
(http://theilsb.club.fr/VAEVICTIS/images/Galerie/GALERIE-Francais-GardesF-60-40.jpg)
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Here a good site (http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Marble/9784/bienvenue/bienvenue.htm) about the "compagnies franches de la marine" (free's marine compagnies) who fighting in Quebec during the seven years war (SYW).
But the page about the musician is not available :?
I try again to find something else but I've got many things here in my home but no scanner to give you some images.
Stéphane
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A better one (http://www.cmhg.gc.ca/cmh/fr/page_46.asp?flash=1) but without the chainned "livrée du roi" :?
Stéphane
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Thanks for your help Richard & Stéphane. :D
I decided to try making the a few soldiers of the `Regiment Languedoc´, because they were involved in a lot of the action during the French & Indian War. I found the uniforms and flags, but not for the drummer ... yet. I´m still making the first figure so there´s plenty of time. :D
All the best,
David
PS. Very nice figures Stéphene, did you paint them? Is that part of your hobby?
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Dear David,
You have seen the film of and with Mel Gibson: "the patriot; ways of freedom " With the end one sees the French troops of independence there, good illustrations of the costumes of the time. I am sure that you could y found your happiness.
See you later
Friendly
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Hey! That`s a great idea! Thanks Paul! :D
I`ll try and find that video/CD
All the best,
David
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David,
While I am always eager to see your uniforms, if you are beginning on the French & Indian War I cannot wait to see your indians! ;)
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I wish you hadn`t said that Henry. :wink:
I hope you enjoyed your birthday and were given a keg o`rum, or failing that, a new pirate ship. :D
David
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I hope you enjoyed your birthday and were given a keg o`rum, or failing that, a new pirate ship. :D
Thanks David, I had a great birthday - 40 quite snuck up on me! ;) I didn't get a new pirate ship - but I did get an old one! :D
(A coworker gave me a box of Playmo that had belonged to her nephew - including most of an old galleon and part of the dragon temple! - so now I have the raw material for another converted ship. I have several ideas... ;) )
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David,
While I am always eager to see your uniforms, if you are beginning on the French & Indian War I cannot wait to see your indians! ;)
I wish you hadn`t said that Henry. :wink:
I am very happy that you said that, Henry, because I would also like to see David's Woodland Indians ... :D
A couple of Iroquois (or Mohawks) would make a GREAT birthday present ... :lol:
(http://www.ospreypublishing.com//osp_img/titlecovers/Q9990AL.JPG) (http://www.ospreypublishing.com/title_detail.php?title=Q9990&ser=MAA)
All the best,
Richard
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Dear David,
You have seen the film of and with Mel Gibson: "the patriot; ways of freedom " With the end one sees the French troops of independence there, good illustrations of the costumes of the time. I am sure that you could y found your happiness.
See you later
Friendly
The film "the last of the mohican" was a great one for uniforms! all is good, even the grenadier from the 60th with is fur cap (the only one at this time). French uniform, flag are corect even in size. It's a very good reconstitution film. You cuold probably found what you want inside ;) because AWI is too late for you. (and sorry Paul, but the patriot is not very good for uniform usefull, french uniform was not like those in the film)
Stéphane
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On this page (http://perso.wanadoo.fr/gbfwss/Tambours.htm), an exemple for the livrée du roi during the spanish succession war. It wil be the same like for the SYW but with shorter jacket.
Stéphane
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Thankyou Stéphane.
What a uniform! How am I going to paint that! :shock: :wink:
David
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Here the livrée du roi is.
(http://vial.jean.free.fr/new_npi/img_pool/livree_royale.gif)
(http://fortress.uccb.ns.ca/behind/lace2.jpg)
Good luck for painting that ;)
Stéphane
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I have seen this thread, and not to step on any toes, as I'm a new guy, but all of you are pretty off the mark in terms of French Drummers of this time, I ave been a Seven Yrs War nut for yrs and know a lot about the French Army. That last site, I don't understand it, it's not right,
There are only two versions of Drummers in the entire French Army in this period. The blue coat, red undercloths version of the Kings Liverie, and the reverse colors, Red Coat, blue undercloths version of the queens liverie, none of which are shown in the posts. Let me a couple days to find a good link to a picture of this. No matter the regiment, it has one of these variations for a drummer. Almost every one has the Kings or Blue coat. Actually that photo of the figures above is pretty good, but it isn't very good I think to explain the actual uniform for painting.
Jude
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There are only two versions of Drummers in the entire French Army in this period.
Sorry but I don't know that. There is many many versions for drummers in line regiments in the french army during the "old regime" (1650-1789).
But a lot of them carried the "livrée du roi". It's not very easy to know wich one wearied it, but most regiment who wearied the "fleurs de lys" on their wihte cross flag wearied the livrée too. Many other regiments wearied it, probably all the "prince's regiments" (who didn't have the country name) but some with coutry name weariedthe livrée too.
The regiments who didn't weared the livrée wearied some extravagants color with, in the most case, no relation with their regimental colors.
I think, that the queen livrée was only wearied by the queen's regiments (cavalery and foot ones)
I hope have good understand what you have say ;)
Stéphane
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Dear David,
You have seen the film of and with Mel Gibson: "the patriot; ways of freedom " With the end one sees the French troops of independence there, good illustrations of the costumes of the time. I am sure that you could y found your happiness.
See you later
Friendly
The film "the last of the mohican" was a great one for uniforms! all is good, even the grenadier from the 60th with is fur cap (the only one at this time). French uniform, flag are corect even in size. It's a very good reconstitution film. You cuold probably found what you want inside ;) because AWI is too late for you. (and sorry Paul, but the patriot is not very good for uniform usefull, french uniform was not like those in the film)
Stéphane
Afflicted Stephane, I left myself misused by an interview of Mel Gibson, in which it implied that all had been worked with readiest of the detail, and thus of the history. A priori it took freedom with the French uniforms.
Thanks
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Yes, the Patriot is very bad for any kind of historical fact, use nothing from that movie, I mean nothing!!! It was deplorable
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Yes, the Patriot is very bad for any kind of historical fact, use nothing from that movie, I mean nothing!!! It was deplorable
It is not the case for "the last of the mohicans" (I don't know if it's the good title in englis language :? ). It's a realy good film about military history (you could see the beast skin on the gun before firing :roll: ) and the uniforms.
Stéphane
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Yes, the Last of Mohicans was very good, the opposite end of the spectrum so to speak.
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that confiirme that Mel Gibson is perhaps a good actor (subject to the opinion of each one), but it is especially a liar on the historical quality of its films. "the last of the mohicans", I did not see this film but I will take your advice and I will buy it in DVD
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Mel Gibson is a realy good actor a film maker (Im a fan of him). Form the film the last of the mohicans there exist many versions. The last one (and I think the newst one) was really good ("Whats the problem?"-"They have bigger canons and more of them!" :P ) According to the uniforms I cant tell wheter they r originally or not.
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I still haven`t seen any of the films, but thanks for the information! :)
So that`s the lace Stéphane. `Gulp!` :wink:
David
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So that`s the lace Stéphane. `Gulp!` :wink:
David
Yes, it is! It's very funny to try to peint it on 15mm lead miniatures with stilized things but on playmobil you MUST do the good chainned ribon.
Yerk Yerk Yerk :mrgreen:
Now good luck, and I'm very impatient to see your wonderfull work ;)
Stéphane
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See the film of The Last of the Mohicans but it is nothing like the book which is far better in my view.
By the way M. le Marquis de Montcalm is the only French general to have an English pub named after him.
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See the film of The Last of the Mohicans but it is nothing like the book which is far better in my view.
Yes! you are probably right but not for seeing the military uniforms :mrgreen: ;)
By the way M. le Marquis de Montcalm is the only French general to have an English pub named after him.
:shock: incredible :lol: :lol: :lol:
Stéphane
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another good source for uniforms of the napoleonic war is the "sharpe" series. very good uniforms there and lots of different ones too!
its available on dvd :)
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another good source for uniforms of the napoleonic war is the "sharpe" series. very good uniforms there and lots of different ones too!
its available on dvd :)
This is a bit OT (and an extremely late post for this topic :oops:), but you just reminded me that I heard a new Sharpe film is coming out in April - the first one for 8 years and it sounds like it will be just as good if not better than the others. :D
It's called Sharpe's Challenge (http://www.southessex.co.uk/main.htm) and the story is set in India this time.
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yep i know it was a rather late post krystal :lol: but i couldnt restrain myself ;) :D
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yep i know it was a rather late post krystal :lol: but i couldnt restrain myself ;) :D
I was talking about my post being late, not yours, Flash, but you can share the blame for going off topic, if you like. :wink: :D
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yep i know it was a rather late post krystal :lol: but i couldnt restrain myself ;) :D
I was talking about my post being late, not yours, Flash, but you can share the blame for going off topic, if you like. :wink: :D
yep, id be glad to :lol: :wink:
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What Plamo parts are available to make drums, drumsticks, and belts?
da Hugh
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What Plamo parts are available to make drums, drumsticks, and belts?
da Hugh
Unfortunately, not much ... :(
Playmobil used to make some drums, but they never made any belts specifically designed for any of the drums that they made ...
You might want to check out Heather Patey's DB site and Bart's Collectobil site for more info.
Heather ... Click HERE (http://www.playmodb.org/)
Bart ... Click HERE (http://www.collectobil.com/)
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http://www.soldiers-russia.com/new_soldiers/1812/kettle.htm
i'm not sure this is the period you're looking for..
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http://www.soldiers-russia.com/new_soldiers/1812/kettle.htm
i'm not sure this is the period you're looking for..
Too young for 50 years ;)
That's some republican patern not the good one.
Stéphane
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when shall we see the result?? ;) i cant wait anumore :)