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Title: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: cheng on July 28, 2008, 05:01:49 AM
i think i have committed more PM-customising sins  :P
can anyone point guess which?  ;)
Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: Justindo on July 28, 2008, 07:15:13 AM
Nice customs Cheng.  Did you modify the faces?
Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: cheng on July 28, 2008, 08:30:41 AM
thanks Justindo !
yep cos i dont have enough chinese heads to go around..hope they still look chinese to you  ;D
Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: specialist on July 28, 2008, 09:58:53 AM
Hello Cheng,
I'm not very familiar with the period of time / the region but whether they are historically correct or not, they look great. I'm not sure how you did it, but the torso looks longer or the skirts are shorter. I go for longer torsos. Right?

specialist
Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: cheng on July 28, 2008, 10:23:23 AM
Hello Ralf !
yes..you just correctly pointed out the 'main' sin i did with these torsos(but not the skirts)...but there's no wizardry with computer graphics i assure you...

anyone willing to give it a shot? Richard?  ;D 
Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: Sylvia on July 28, 2008, 10:43:50 AM

Did you trim the triangular points off the hair pieces?

Excellent customs, btw.  8)

Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: cheng on July 28, 2008, 11:14:09 AM
thanks Sylvia (at last I've got a custom that can interest the 'softer' gender)  ;D

yes i did...before Qing(manchu) period, they pull their hair up into a knot at the top-rear...so their hairline is pretty high for a klicky  ;)

can someone tell me how the torsos appears (correctly)longer?
Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: Sylvia on July 28, 2008, 02:57:02 PM

thanks Sylvia (at last I've got a custom that can interest the 'softer' gender)  ;D


I always like your stuff! Especially impressed by how well you integrate non-Playmo parts. 8)

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can someone tell me how the torsos appears (correctly)longer?


I think I finally worked it out. You've put them on backwards. ;D

The poor fellows will not be able to take any rest at all until bedtime. ;)

Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: Argand on July 29, 2008, 01:13:10 AM
Simply excellent  :o :o :o

No words to describe!!!!
Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: cheng on July 29, 2008, 02:10:52 AM
thanks Argand..

and BINGO, Sylvia !!!!!!!!!!
you are the PM expert !!

the BIGGEST PM-sin(?)
...the front armour hangs over their loins while their rear are not important in a face-to-face combat...maybe its more comfortable for his horse  :D
Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: specialist on July 29, 2008, 10:22:31 AM
....comfortable for the horse....?

Tell me how it looks when is sitting on horseback with the skirt on!

By the way: excellent idea (I'm busy thinking up a figure to copy it)
Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: work on July 29, 2008, 04:19:25 PM
Excellent idea ;D
Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: cheng on August 06, 2008, 04:20:24 AM
thanks Work !

tell me how it looks when is sitting on horseback with the skirt on!

By the way: excellent idea (I'm busy thinking up a figure to copy it)

hey Ralf, as Sylvia mentioned, they can only lie down...we have dare-devil bikers here who can ride bikes lying flat...i guess the Ming horses wouldnt mind that at all  ;D

and looking forward to you working your magic....knowing you..you'll come up with many awesome ideas too (with putting torsos backwards)
Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: Richard on August 06, 2008, 03:17:36 PM


Very impressive, Cheng!

You certainly do "think outside the box" ... ;)

Congratulations, Sylvia! As Cheng said, "You are the PM expert!"

Great looking figures.

All the best,
Richard
Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: Flash on August 18, 2008, 08:38:50 PM
Wonderful work yet again cheng!  ;D
Here is a link to a fan site dedicated to a japanese / chinese series from the 702, that was also shown in germany at the time.
The Rebels of Liang-Shan-Po (http://www.liang-shan-po.de/start.htm)
The site is in german and frankly i do not know if an english site exists. However the names and looks of the different characters may provide interesting material for your further projects! Click the top link on the left of the site and you will get the profiles of different characters, good ones on top, bad ones down below  ;))
This site was puplbished by Dread Bonet on the Klickyweltforum (http://www.klickywelt.de/die-rebellen-von-liang-shan-po-t30066.html). Thanx to him for this very interesting discovery!  ;D
Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: cheng on August 19, 2008, 03:04:15 AM
thanks Flash !
yes, I've heard of those famous legends entitled 'water margin' when i was a kid...could be the same stuff...

we have many chinese sword-fighting series here (except we don't have this liang-shan-po)....
but we don't have any Samurai ones (our locals are more interested in Japanese love-stories I suppose  ;D ) and nobody is selling Samurai DVDs too...no market here among the young.

my respect to Dread Bonet too....its hard to customise just from original parts....there will be many japanese and chinese customs possible once Geobra produces the more suitable hair pieces...

I'm restricting myself to only historical themes (and avoiding fantasy figures because there is no end/limit)
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Post by: henry_martini on August 20, 2008, 06:15:31 AM
thanks Flash !
yes, I've heard of those famous legends entitled 'water margin' when i was a kid...could be the same stuff...
Yes, it is the same.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Margin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Margin)

some pictures, b/w and color
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Water_Margin (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Water_Margin)
and
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Outlaws_of_the_Water_Margin (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Outlaws_of_the_Water_Margin)

I'm restricting myself to only historical themes (and avoiding fantasy figures because there is no end/limit)
A pity.  ;D.


I have the book somewhere and will go now to search it. Thank you, cheng for this nice theme.
Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: Dan on August 20, 2008, 09:01:18 PM
I always like unusual subjects - these are great.
Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: cheng on August 22, 2008, 03:47:49 AM
thanks Micheal(henry_martini )!

WOW, these knowledge & interest really puts me to shame...now I better learn a bit more about them even if I wont be customising them  :P

at least I now also know where I can go to for more ideas if I ever run out of characters to customse  ;)

and thanks too, Dan  :)
Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: Foulques on August 22, 2008, 01:36:51 PM
Congratulations it's a very hard theme to made  :)
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Post by: Flash on August 23, 2008, 07:58:57 PM
thanks Flash !
yes, I've heard of those famous legends entitled 'water margin' when i was a kid...could be the same stuff...
Yes, it is the same.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Margin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Margin)

some pictures, b/w and color
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Water_Margin (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Water_Margin)
and
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Outlaws_of_the_Water_Margin (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Outlaws_of_the_Water_Margin)

I'm restricting myself to only historical themes (and avoiding fantasy figures because there is no end/limit)
A pity.  ;D.


I have the book somewhere and will go now to search it. Thank you, cheng for this nice theme.


Thanx for the info Michael! And my pleasure cheng, I really hope you will expand your asian themes!  ;D
Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: Timotheos on March 17, 2009, 02:53:04 AM
Bumped back into circulation.

Hi Cheng, I like how you did the reverse-torso for the tunic effect.  Did you have source material for these guys?  I'm struggling to locate Ming source.

I've resorted to trips to the Art Museum to study clay statuettes...

The Saint Louis Art Museum is hosting a big Ming exhibit.  I should have bribed the guard to let me use my camera.  I saw a great tapestry of a hunting expedition and an army of (unfortunately crude) clay statues on the march.  Plus, some good scenes of women aristocrats at a party and the emperor and his retinue playing croquet...

Why is this so difficult to find off the web?  I thought the web was supposed to unify all knowledge?

I still can't find anything easily... just as in the old days of the 1990s I must resort to footwork to museums or to the library or rummage bargain book dealers...

-Tim
Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: cheng on March 18, 2009, 04:26:10 AM
I like how you did the reverse-torso for the tunic effect.  Did you have source material for these guys? 

The Saint Louis Art Museum is hosting a big Ming exhibit.  I should have bribed the guard to let me use my camera.  I saw a great tapestry of a hunting expedition and an army of (unfortunately crude) clay statues on the march. -Tim

the reverse-torsos are really just fixed on back-to-front but of course with some internal trimmings to allow them to slip on completely.

I didnt have any historically accurate reference materials....just what we see in movies, comics, paintings.....  :P

i hope you will be able to show us some shots with your hp cam  :D
Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: cheng on April 02, 2009, 01:59:34 AM
Tim, I didnt work from this picture but a combination of what I've collected in my mind from movies etc (I can't read mandarin, there are many reference materials in mandarin I'm sure)  :)
Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: Timotheos on April 04, 2009, 03:53:03 AM
Thanks, Cheng, the picture looks great.

I could scan some more Ming pictures I have from Osprey books, if you'd like.

As for Chinese source material, on my next trip to Beijing I intend to scour the bookshops for source.  I have a great book on Chinese village architecture (different villages among the minority groups).

But as for military... I haven't found a Chinese equivalent of Osprey...  in the US and UK, you can find tons of picture books explaining European castles, but this fashion hasn't caught on yet in China...

Chinese kids appear to be more interested in European castles than in Chinese castles...  (I've found many of the European castle picture books from the US translated for the Chinese market)

-Tim 
Title: Re: my new Ming (Dynasty) soldiers
Post by: cheng on April 04, 2009, 04:17:44 AM
YES please, Tim!!!
(or by PM or email....I cant find any Osprey books here...there's just not enough people interested in military history apart from WWII)

I've never been to Beijing either and not being able to read chinese, I cant even search chinese book stores here....but there are many movies for Ming & Qing periods but new shows tend to fantasize too much on clothes.  :D

errrr...no interest on Chinese village at the moment....I have given up 1/76 scale dioramas long before giving up on 1/35 scale.  ;D

true....many chinese kids have eyes only for western history, fashion and fast food....its not about to change....so any plans to launch Chinese themes in China would be a marketing gamble for GB....especially now  :P so we best move on, on our own (instead of waiting for GB)  ;)