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Title: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on October 09, 2007, 02:01:15 PM
I got a new morion today and thought I might share it.

Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: Grant on October 09, 2007, 03:13:10 PM
I really like your pikeman. A very cool and good custom henry_martini.  8)
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: pastifi on October 09, 2007, 03:14:48 PM
great pikeman there, the helmet is from?  :o

Cheers
Panos
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on October 09, 2007, 04:49:08 PM
@panos: The helmet will be in the new (in germany already launched) spaniard sets. It will be available in the ds by mid of november.



Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: Richard on October 09, 2007, 06:23:43 PM


Very nice custom, Michael ...

Thanks for the photos!

I was happy to see that the new helmet is really a new helmet and is not just a re-issue the old chrome plated one! (see attached image)
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: tanotrooper on October 09, 2007, 10:04:31 PM
now that helmet is a beauty...

Can you give us a full pic of the pike, and the material it was made of? I have an idea to use sate sticks as a basis for the pikes   ;D

TT
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: Leblanc d. II. on October 09, 2007, 10:11:35 PM
Nice custom henry. What about a new series? Your victorian customs are magnificant and now 17 th century? ;)
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on October 10, 2007, 12:55:29 PM
@ TT:
it is an old tepee pole, for pictures and 'discussion' see:
https://gardenwargaming.playclicks.com/forum/index.php?topic=478.0 (https://gardenwargaming.playclicks.com/forum/index.php?topic=478.0)

@ richard: I was very glad about it. But I liked the other ones back then, too.

@ leblanc: I will drop one in from time time.

Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: cheng on October 11, 2007, 09:26:28 AM
this the ultimate Morion for my conquistadores :D

say, Michael, is your pikeman supposed to be spanish? (sorry, my knowledge of European history is v poor...i thought he might be english)

but its a beautiful custom....easily done but like i say again and again...its the headwear thats always the convincing point...

any pictures for us here, Richard?  ;) 
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: Flash on October 19, 2007, 04:19:00 PM
simple but effective custom! i really like him!  ;D
Title: Re: 17th century pikemen
Post by: henry_martini on March 03, 2008, 11:53:57 AM
I used the prirate 4654 and a few other new and/or still available parts.


Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on March 03, 2008, 11:59:08 AM
 :)
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on October 24, 2008, 09:54:03 AM
without comment ;D
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on October 24, 2008, 09:54:46 AM
 :)
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: Richard on October 26, 2008, 03:55:27 AM


Beautiful customs, Michael!

It appears that you may have actually eclipsed the old retired master himself ... David Hamer.

Thank you very much for sharing your wonderful custom figures.

All the best,
Richard
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: customan on December 04, 2008, 05:35:25 PM
Very great !!!
The new morion is good for the XVI, XVII century custom
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on June 10, 2009, 12:58:42 AM
Inspired by the last contributions to the TYW theme I set up my tercio.

Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on June 10, 2009, 01:02:09 AM
@ richard: let's say pm provides us now with the parts that make it possible to follow him.
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on June 10, 2009, 01:02:41 AM
@ geobra: Speaking of necessary parts: We do need again the brown belt with knobs for cartridges.
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on June 10, 2009, 01:03:22 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on June 10, 2009, 01:06:35 AM
 :D
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on June 10, 2009, 01:08:19 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on June 10, 2009, 01:10:47 AM
 :-X
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: Justindo on June 10, 2009, 07:49:18 AM
henry_martini:  your custom army looks great!
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: hauden_lukas on June 10, 2009, 04:17:18 PM
The pictures with the crowd and pikes, flags, banners, drums... are even more convincing!!
I can spot some very nice customs!

Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: olki on June 10, 2009, 05:00:15 PM
Very cool, Michael! I sense another coop at WOB! ;)
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: Foulques on June 11, 2009, 09:44:32 AM
Well playmobil musketers begin to rule  :D

Realist color but perhaps you can made  drummers more colourful
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on June 12, 2009, 11:40:03 AM
Very cool, Michael! I sense another coop at WOB! ;)

Das Regiment steht zu Euer Liebden Verfügung.  ;D

H_M
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on June 13, 2009, 05:59:15 PM
Realist color but perhaps you can made  drummers more colourful

Agreed  :D

@ all: Thanks for your friendly comments.
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: deadeye dick on June 14, 2009, 06:35:05 PM
This is really a nice army you have there. Mama Mia...  :-*
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on June 17, 2009, 11:41:56 AM
2 of my pikemen ( ::) mind the thread title) negotiating an affair of honour during leisure time.

Title: Le Roi danse - La Reine marche
Post by: henry_martini on June 17, 2009, 03:12:30 PM
I found another inspiration, a french regiment of the epoque, see http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=11663.0 (http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=11663.0) and the related blog (http://lead-mountain.blogspot.com/2009/06/le-roi-danse-la-reine-marche.html).
 
@ olki: I will go for this if you agree and I find enough csa figures

Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: Foulques on June 17, 2009, 10:29:08 PM
well, Louis XIV style  ;)
Title: Re: Le Roi danse - La Reine marche
Post by: cheng on June 18, 2009, 03:44:13 AM
@ olki: I will go for this if you agree and I find enough csa figures

very nice csa figures wearing long white lapels and shorts  :D
...and most of all the combination with those varied black hats!
just beautiful...what can be just 'rehashed' from these playmo parts!  :)
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: Jimbo on June 18, 2009, 03:00:24 PM
Very nice figures!  I really like your pikemen!

Best regards,
Jimbo
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on June 19, 2009, 11:11:20 AM
Le carnage.
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on June 19, 2009, 11:12:05 AM
 :)
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on June 19, 2009, 11:13:34 AM
@ geobra: Speaking of necessary parts: We do need again the brown bandolier with knobs for cartridges.
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on October 02, 2009, 01:35:12 PM
I found an old tipee with enough poles. They are not really suitable as already stated some time ago, but I want to give an impression how it might look. Maybe I can improve the poles by some orthopedic measures.
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on October 02, 2009, 01:35:48 PM
 :)
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on October 02, 2009, 01:36:39 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on October 02, 2009, 01:37:18 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: Richard on October 02, 2009, 01:51:03 PM


They look GREAT, Michael ... (http://www.gardenwargamer.com/images/applause.gif) ... (http://www.gardenwargamer.com/images/applause.gif) ... (http://www.gardenwargamer.com/images/applause.gif)
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: cheng on October 03, 2009, 03:09:21 AM
I remember asking you all about options for long poles (even as far back as when I was making merry men with wooden staff) but even with new safari themes...the perfect PM part is still elusive...looks like your old teepee poles are still the best option...

i remember having a few small PVC Japanese flower ports hanging from 3 plastic 'stirrups' unfortunately I cant find them anymore (mine was white anyway and spent too much time in the sun and probably thrown away) I've got red/brown ones but the 'stirrups' are casted like twisted strings/cords. so my search goes on....
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on November 05, 2009, 11:51:29 AM
A few improved musketeers, a flag and a drummer.
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on November 05, 2009, 12:09:01 PM
I remember asking you all about options for long poles (even as far back as when I was making merry men with wooden staff) but even with new safari themes...the perfect PM part is still elusive...looks like your old teepee poles are still the best option...

i remember having a few small PVC Japanese flower ports hanging from 3 plastic 'stirrups' unfortunately I cant find them anymore (mine was white anyway and spent too much time in the sun and probably thrown away) I've got red/brown ones but the 'stirrups' are casted like twisted strings/cords. so my search goes on....

There is variant of the old tepee pole that comes with set 4431 (http://collectobil.com/catalogue/items/4431.htm) (shown in the rear/right of the pictures). It is more dark and slightly less flexible. Not that this is really visible but it makes a difference. :D
I hope they are still available in the DS.
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: Richard on November 05, 2009, 03:25:01 PM


I love your musketeer group (band), Michael! ... (http://www.gardenwargamer.com/images/applause.gif) They're splendid! ... (http://www.gardenwargamer.com/images/worshippy.gif)

Your pikemen will definitely confuse any opponent! ... ;)

Thanks for sharing your musketeers and pikemen with us!

All the best,
Richard

Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: cheng on November 06, 2009, 09:52:56 AM
...Your pikemen will definitely confuse any opponent! ... ;)

Richard, I wonder if you are referring to their 'flexing' pikes (like those flexible double-edged Chinese swords which can whip/curl when parried  :D )

btw Micheal(H-M), I like the drummer best....I must not make I must not make I must not make I must not make I must not make I must not make I must not make I must not make I must not make I must not make I must not make them  ;D

..and they also remind me very much of David ( 'De Warren' or 'Hamer' ? )'s beautiful (still is very outstanding till today, IMHO) customs  :)
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: Richard on November 06, 2009, 05:42:16 PM



..and they also remind me very much of David ( 'De Warren' or 'Hamer' ? )'s beautiful (still is very outstanding till today, IMHO) customs
  :)



But, IMHO ... David Hamer's customs are not as good as your recent customs, Cheng! ... (http://www.gardenwargamer.com/images/worshippy.gif)

Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on November 07, 2009, 01:28:41 PM
...Your pikemen will definitely confuse any opponent! ... ;)

Richard, I wonder if you are referring to their 'flexing' pikes (like those flexible double-edged Chinese swords which can whip/curl when parried  :D )
I took Richard's statement as a suggestion to build an unit of opponents. But I am not sure yet to go where even Geobra does not go normally.  ;D 

..and they also remind me very much of David ( 'De Warren' or 'Hamer' ? )'s beautiful (still is very outstanding till today, IMHO) customs  :)
As said already it is now with the newer parts possible to build such figures. (@ geobra: it would still be more easy if we had a special with knee breeches in a decent colour with white socks and the brown!!! belt with knobs for cartridges from 4551) But they still can not be compared with DH's ingenious TYW customs.

@all: Thank you for your interest.
H_M
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on December 01, 2009, 01:29:36 PM
There is variant of the old tepee pole that comes with set 4431 (http://collectobil.com/catalogue/items/4431.htm) (shown in the rear/right of the pictures). It is more dark and slightly less flexible. Not that this is really visible but it makes a difference. :D
I hope they are still available in the DS.

They are available. :-)

Stored with care they should not become too sloppy too soon.

I suggest them also as macedonian sarissas.


Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on December 01, 2009, 01:45:01 PM
 :)
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on December 01, 2009, 01:46:22 PM
Next time there will be other colors, maybe even opponents.  :D
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: cheng on December 02, 2009, 04:55:34 AM
hey Micheal !
your latest photos says it all  ;)
an awesome sight for any PM calvary to be riding into  :o

and now completes your beautiful custom  :)
I have promised not to make these no matter how heart tugging they now appear  ;D

this is one custom where numbers matter  :P

luckily for me...the Ashigarus did not have such thick formations so I can get away with having lesser Yaris (which are also about 20 feet long...Micheal, can you estimate the scaled-down length of your western pikes?) fighting alongside other ahigarus carrying a mixure of weapons
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on December 05, 2009, 06:40:33 AM
this is one custom where numbers matter  :P
one alone always gives the impression of being lost

luckily for me...the Ashigarus did not have such thick formations so I can get away with having lesser Yaris (which are also about 20 feet long...Micheal, can you estimate the scaled-down length of your western pikes?) fighting alongside other ahigarus carrying a mixure of weapons
One pole has a length of quite exactly 2.5 klickies so it is 4,25m (assuming 5'6" or 1.70 as average height of the century).  The length of the poles varies a bit to appear more natural when put into its normal use as a native tent substructure.
Title: esto es un tercio espagnol
Post by: henry_martini on December 05, 2009, 06:53:16 AM
After some searching the grey french tercio met finally the green spanish tercio.
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on December 05, 2009, 06:53:59 AM
 :)
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on December 05, 2009, 06:55:46 AM
 :D
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on December 05, 2009, 06:56:19 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on December 05, 2009, 06:57:33 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on December 05, 2009, 06:59:40 AM
 >:(
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on December 05, 2009, 07:02:04 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: cheng on December 06, 2009, 02:40:44 AM
One pole has a length of quite exactly 2.5 klickies so it is 4,25m (assuming 5'6" or 1.70 as average height of the century).  The length of the poles varies a bit to appear more natural when put into its normal use as a native tent substructure.

hey...i never thought those poles were made with varying lengths, GB is really a gem of a toy maker who doesnt think costs all the time  :)

hmmm that means about 14 feet...thats quite handy....a 25 footer would be very difficult to control and adjust at the horsemen closing in real fast...25 feet would have to be clumsy against calvary but i guess they'll be a big advantage in a 'chopsticks fight' like yours  ;D

very nice and thanks for sharing Micheal! I'm never going to have so many of these 'turncoats' nor 'pinocchio' legs nor 'chopsticks' but then i dont have to visualise now that you have put them here for eternity  :D (btw, thats what i thought when i never bothered to save my photos in playmoboard  :P )
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on November 02, 2010, 11:07:57 AM
I prototyped a musket stand yesterday. The use a fork for oars to hold a gun was shown here already some time before. Maybe even this whole thing was not my invention. It occurred to me yesterday to put a rod under the fork when I saw it in its  normal position. It is glued here but I plan to drill holes in future.

In spite of all this I have to show it now, hoping to promote the idea. Musketeers just look better with this device.

H_M
   
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: cheng on November 02, 2010, 11:28:42 AM
Micheal, your musketeers look like a handsome group even without this gun  :)
this is one of those themes I try not to make (I do have 4 simple ones just to satisfy my hunger :P)
AH-HA!!! drilling and gluing!! we are all veering off limits now and then aren't we  :D ;D ;)
 
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: WarriorOfToys on November 02, 2010, 02:27:16 PM
Brilliant! :o
That is an ingenious custom Michael! ;D
I might have to make a few... ::)
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: Justindo on November 03, 2010, 05:36:47 AM
Great idea, Michael!
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: Foulques on November 09, 2010, 11:26:09 AM
Pikemans and the "fourquine" for musketers are great! Ah we want a real new musket!
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on November 09, 2010, 12:08:52 PM
Pikemans and the "fourquine" for musketers are great! Ah we want a real new musket!

Glad to hear from you. And thank you for a word for the thing. :) Or maybe "foulquine".  ;D
Has anybody the english word for it?

@all: Thank you for your kind replies. I am preparing a DS order and will have to show some more soon.

@cheng: Only replaceable parts, the rod came from an already broken rigging. :D
Title: croatian variation
Post by: henry_martini on December 06, 2010, 12:38:09 PM
My santa claus contribution  ;D
TYW imperial croatian huszars

Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: Justindo on December 07, 2010, 08:07:40 AM
I like your Croatians, Michael!  The mounted one almost reminds me of the portrait of Vlad Tepes. :)

Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on January 20, 2011, 08:49:59 AM
Has anybody the english word for it?

I found out by chance that it is called a musket rest.  :)
http://www.preservationvirginia.org/rediscovery/page.php?page_id=159 (http://www.preservationvirginia.org/rediscovery/page.php?page_id=159)
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on January 30, 2011, 05:29:31 PM
I bought the new blister 4127 (http://www.playmobil.de/on/demandware.store/Sites-DE-Site/de_DE/Product-Show?pid=4127&cgid=Piraten) and tried to find something useful to do for the the pyrate.
The arms of the recent conqustadors fit with the yellow of his shirt so I could use his torso.


Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: AndrewL on January 30, 2011, 07:01:58 PM
Very nice!

I quite like both your figures, and the close-up shots are very informative.

I will be trying to get a hold of the new blister you mention because I am intrigued by the pirates arms --  the flowing sleeves are quite nice. Good to know that the colour of the pirate's shirt is what I call 'mustard yellow'.

I also like the gorget (metal collar) over the breastplate on your musketeer. Did you need to cut or otherwise modify it to make it fit over the breastplate? Just curious...

Anyway, well done!

Cheers,

AndrewL
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: henry_martini on January 30, 2011, 11:22:26 PM
I will be trying to get a hold of the new blister you mention because I am intrigued by the pirates arms --  the flowing sleeves are quite nice. Good to know that the colour of the pirate's shirt is what I call 'mustard yellow'.

I also like the gorget (metal collar) over the breastplate on your musketeer. Did you need to cut or otherwise modify it to make it fit over the breastplate? Just curious...

This combination can be made without modifications. Sometimes it fits a slight bit better, in this case it is difficult (but still possible) to rotate the head.   
Title: Re: 17th century pikeman
Post by: cheng on February 01, 2011, 01:41:35 AM
your latest spaniard is very good  :) I MUST NOT  MUST NOT MUST NOT MUST NOT MUST NOT MUST NOT MUST NOT MUST NOT MUST NOT MUST NOT MUST NOT.. ;D